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Fuels study spurs ideas Friday, March 28, 2008
Indy Star -- When Ben Davis High School students got the assignment to research alternative fuels, sophomore Daniel Johnson didn't know what to think of hydrogen for vehicles. "At first I was quite skeptical, but as I studied I decided this is the way of the future," said Johnson, 15. More than 300 integrated chemistry and physics students studied alternatives such as ethanol, electricity, hybrids, hydrogen and a more efficient form of gasoline. This week, the top nine students in the project presented their arguments for either a hydrogen vehicle or an electric car.
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	Friday, March 28, 2008 Indy Star -- When Ben Davis High School students got the assignment to research alternative fuels, sophomore Daniel Johnson didn't know what to think of hydrogen for vehicles. "At first I was quite skeptical, but as I studied I decided this is the way of the future," said Johnson, 15. More than 300 integrated chemistry and physics students studied alternatives such as ethanol, electricity, hybrids, hydrogen and a more efficient form of gasoline. This week, the top nine students in the project presented their arguments for either a hydrogen vehicle or an electric car. Visit Indy Star for full article

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POLELANE All-Star Author Ohio Posts:533 Points:47,325 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 12:32:50 PM	Ignore POLELANE Report Abuse
	Healium would be safer; and it has medical properties II
Japsmith All-Star Author Tacoma Posts:697 Points:146,265 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 10:20:37 AM	Ignore Japsmith Report Abuse
	It is just a matter of time before hydrogen is on the forefront of supplying fuel to a vehicle. This vehicle may not get the performance of todays cars, but it will get to from point A to point B. We are just in too big of a hurry and too set in our ways to make any changes. Maybe we can get into a vehicle that uses hydrogen but can only go 50 MPH. If that is what technology brings us, then we need to adapt. But knowing people, they will refuse this technology because going only 50 MPH is too slow.
ScrappyDog Veteran Author Montana Posts:287 Points:1,372,325 Joined:Dec 2003	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 10:00:41 AM	Ignore ScrappyDog Report Abuse
	Talking about hydrogen is all good, but has anyone considered the SCIENCE of it? We have no distribution system for it and if we start compressing it and hauling it around in rail cars, we will have thousands of potential Hindenbergs --- just one accident will stop all this discussion.
PetrolKingNC Veteran Author Charlotte Posts:329 Points:70,620 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:56:20 AM	Ignore PetrolKingNC Report Abuse
	dumb, dumb dumb
tarbaby1 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,177 Points:569,020 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:52:08 AM	Ignore tarbaby1 Report Abuse
	We get to choose... If we'll pay for it, someone will make it...
Jizme All-Star Author Lincoln Posts:674 Points:1,097,240 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:49:10 AM	Ignore Jizme Report Abuse
	talk, talk, talk, when are we going to start doing?
racerdj All-Star Author Indianapolis Posts:659 Points:241,310 Joined:Jun 2003	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:46:19 AM	Ignore racerdj Report Abuse
	It's exciting to hear all the new ideas which will spring development of solutions!
bicycler Champion Author Ontario Posts:4,832 Points:936,045 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:45:08 AM	Ignore bicycler Report Abuse
	briank; Some truth here but they will simply invest in the new fuel.
briank299 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:6,729 Points:1,264,550 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:43:06 AM	Ignore briank299 Report Abuse
	Why are we behind? Simple answer: MONEY. Big Oil will never allow another type of fuel into the market.
tags610 Champion Author Lincoln Posts:1,361 Points:329,475 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:42:06 AM	Ignore tags610 Report Abuse
	Ideas but no action.
PurplePuppy Rookie Author Florida Posts:63 Points:26,900 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:38:46 AM	Ignore PurplePuppy Report Abuse
	Why are we so behind? Is it the Car manufactures? The Oil Company's, or our own lazy fault?
rjoeh All-Star Author Michigan Posts:524 Points:889,310 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:38:27 AM	Ignore rjoeh Report Abuse
	a lot of good ideas with hydrogen in cluding a possible maglev transit system in the near future if the bureaucrats would stop bending over to the big oil money.
RCinNM Champion Author New Mexico Posts:3,388 Points:348,235 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:35:08 AM	Ignore RCinNM Report Abuse
	We should already had a fix by now.
KO292 All-Star Author Twin Cities Posts:987 Points:374,440 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:29:55 AM	Ignore KO292 Report Abuse
	about time!!!
Jahrahnimo Veteran Author Georgia Posts:404 Points:98,075 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:29:42 AM	Ignore Jahrahnimo Report Abuse
	Necessity is the mother of invention!
c47 Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,280 Points:489,815 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:29:29 AM	Ignore c47 Report Abuse
	We,ll have to wait and see.
Matts_Pap Veteran Author Pennsylvania Posts:322 Points:65,495 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:25:49 AM	Ignore Matts_Pap Report Abuse
	Every high school and college science class should be researching the same subject. The kids have the brains to save themselves.
The_WB Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,551 Points:302,500 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:20:07 AM	Ignore The_WB Report Abuse
	How many will pursue later in life?
papou Champion Author Tampa Posts:1,782 Points:302,370 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:18:21 AM	Ignore papou Report Abuse
	" Do not put off for tomorrow ,What can be done today !
cudatim Veteran Author San Antonio Posts:377 Points:239,200 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:09:55 AM	Ignore cudatim Report Abuse
	Ideas in todays youth turn out to be tomorrows answers to many problems. We can just hope that an answer is found to todays problems soon.
Mazdaman7Q Champion Author South Carolina Posts:2,863 Points:603,835 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:07:27 AM	Ignore Mazdaman7Q Report Abuse
	It's bad when school kids can make more progress than the entire industry!
rvnvet70 All-Star Author Michigan Posts:940 Points:812,010 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:06:56 AM	Ignore rvnvet70 Report Abuse
	Thats just what they are, IDEAS!!
DieselFord All-Star Author Phoenix Posts:594 Points:141,735 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:06:26 AM	Ignore DieselFord Report Abuse
	The need is fixing the dollar. To fix the dollar need to quit spending what we do not have except with credit.
smwhite All-Star Author Indiana Posts:702 Points:279,720 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:02:21 AM	Ignore smwhite Report Abuse
	Maybe the government should let these students be in charge of lowering the prices of fuel, and I'll bet they would get it done!
onethumb All-Star Author Hamilton Posts:796 Points:287,705 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:55:38 AM	Ignore onethumb Report Abuse
	These kids have got the right idea.
ArboretumCop Veteran Author Richmond Posts:291 Points:824,140 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:53:52 AM	Ignore ArboretumCop Report Abuse
	Maybe a teenager can do what no one else has done!
Gassie1 Champion Author Akron Posts:3,366 Points:375,710 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:52:12 AM	Ignore Gassie1 Report Abuse
	Wind power, sailing cars :-D
HockeyLady Veteran Author New Jersey Posts:372 Points:751,245 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:47:13 AM	Ignore HockeyLady Report Abuse
	great assignment for the kids--and maybe they in college or after, will actually DO something
dslxcur Veteran Author Seattle Posts:425 Points:148,225 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:46:49 AM	Ignore dslxcur Report Abuse
	Dang! Dare to Dream, Inspire, Teach, Lead, Discover and Reward those who Innovate............
Dipstick1 All-Star Author Texas Posts:776 Points:640,360 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:45:27 AM	Ignore Dipstick1 Report Abuse
	OK
Lovelee All-Star Author Detroit Posts:827 Points:267,285 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:36:02 AM	Ignore Lovelee Report Abuse
	Is LP as available as gas? Can it be supplied at reasonalble costs? And what about nitrogen emissions? No alternative has reduced this emission
heysailor All-Star Author Pittsburgh Posts:600 Points:532,170 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:35:21 AM	Ignore heysailor Report Abuse
	Short of ruining ANWR so that some schmuck can fill up his Suburban, anything that helps America stop shipping away its wealth by spending billions of dollars on foreign oil is a good thing.
weenerdog All-Star Author Detroit Posts:551 Points:112,785 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:34:54 AM	Ignore weenerdog Report Abuse
	yes, six years ago Bush said that hydrogen was the future but we didnt do anything about it. just like the previous article, technology is expected for this by 2020.
bug27 Champion Author Kentucky Posts:1,022 Points:987,425 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:33:33 AM	Ignore bug27 Report Abuse
	Six years ago, President Bush said hydrogen cars were the way of the future.
Zinnoil Champion Author Illinois Posts:10,691 Points:1,324,895 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:32:56 AM	Ignore Zinnoil Report Abuse
	Appears to be an excellent high school assignment.
cv Champion Author Raleigh Posts:5,986 Points:1,453,965 Joined:Oct 2003	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:32:29 AM	Ignore cv Report Abuse
	Anything that helps minds to expand should be good.
Gellin All-Star Author Michigan Posts:502 Points:933,015 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:25:09 AM	Ignore Gellin Report Abuse
	good exercise for the brain
brutus All-Star Author Alberta Posts:802 Points:748,305 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:23:46 AM	Ignore brutus Report Abuse
	Kids are smart, some someone will be successful and become instantly rich when they solve the fuel problem.
Captain241 Sophomore Author Michigan Posts:155 Points:167,665 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:21:48 AM	Ignore Captain241 Report Abuse
	Thats what they said about our roads. Look at them, they were better 30 years ago that they are today. The design was simple back than. Don't say we didn't have the traffic we have today because you can still find roads that were built back than and there still driveable. New ideas aren't always better
cheapertvs All-Star Author Richmond Posts:871 Points:934,395 Joined:Jan 2004	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:20:45 AM	Ignore cheapertvs Report Abuse
	Economic realities will burst the bubbles of those inquisitive minds. ".... Any way you look at it you lose."
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:6,125 Points:528,135 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:17:03 AM	Ignore tomok Report Abuse
	Develop existing vehicles with much higher gas mileage - 60, 70, 100MPG. Hydrogen is NOT the answer - it uses way too much electricity to produce that hydrogen. For EV's a battery that has a fast recharge and will power the vehicle for 100 miles or more. Produce more and different alternative fuels using NON FOOD sources. Limit then import of OPEC oil. Produce more renewable energy - wind, solar, tidal, hydro, etc. etc.
4warned Veteran Author Michigan Posts:260 Points:428,665 Joined:Nov 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:11:40 AM	Ignore 4warned Report Abuse
	Energy needs, need to be taught young. Maybe there generation can be saved all the headaches were going through.
Rivermedic Veteran Author Fort Worth Posts:338 Points:61,530 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:08:12 AM	Ignore Rivermedic Report Abuse
	This is not spuring an idea
FunkyPMonkey All-Star Author Detroit Posts:856 Points:283,550 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:06:45 AM	Ignore FunkyPMonkey Report Abuse
	old ideas in a different era....
ledoy Champion Author Dayton Posts:4,270 Points:868,575 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:02:02 AM	Ignore ledoy Report Abuse
	great
mochababy70 Veteran Author Nova Scotia Posts:287 Points:678,430 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 7:55:04 AM	Ignore mochababy70 Report Abuse
	nice story
Helms All-Star Author Fort Worth Posts:556 Points:477,585 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 7:49:14 AM	Ignore Helms Report Abuse
	Don;t need studies....need results....stuff that can go into production....in one or at most 2-3 years!
rowansysco Veteran Author Louisville Posts:419 Points:162,155 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 7:43:42 AM	Ignore rowansysco Report Abuse
	wow!!!!!!!!!
BoerneWatch Champion Author San Antonio Posts:5,062 Points:639,260 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 7:36:35 AM	Ignore BoerneWatch Report Abuse
	Nice story.
racer3 Champion Author New York Posts:7,103 Points:1,437,425 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 7:31:21 AM	Ignore racer3 Report Abuse
	never happen

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