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Can Natural Gas Become the New Gasoline?

CNBC -- Natural gas is abundant, clean and far cheaper than diesel. That has the U.S. transportation and auto industries looking for ways to kick their dependence on dirtier fossil fuels.

After years of debating how to tap domestic energy sources, new innovations in the sector have created a boom in U.S. energy production. And natural gas is now being viewed as something of a panacea for much of what ails the world's largest economy — cheaper energy could make U.S. manufacturing globally competitive again.

Indeed, natural gas was the buzz of CERAWeek, an energy conference in Houston that explores hot topics in the energy sector.

Using the fuel in conventional transportation is one avenue that appears to hold vast potential.This week, BNSF Railway, one of the largest consumers of U.S. dies


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remay
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2013 8:37:04 AM

"This week, BNSF Railway, one of the largest consumers of U.S. diesel fuel and a subsidiary of Berkshire Hathaway, announced a natural gas pilot program for its fleet of locomotives."

Yes, makes sense to do it in heavy equipment and fleets.
jethro5000
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2013 7:07:05 AM

As I said the last time I read this story, it is doubtful!
wegman
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2013 6:30:28 AM

A major downside for natural gas to gasoline is energy density. By weight, natural gas is better. But by volume gasoline is MUCH, MUCH more efficient. That is why we have liquified and compressed natural gas for vehicles.
Amplion
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2013 12:23:42 AM

PROVEN TO BE UNSAFE !!!!
bell013
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 10:24:55 PM

Why wouldn't it work?
bell05
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 10:18:24 PM

Ought to be able to make it work.
PDQBlues
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 9:45:14 PM


Natural gas may be one of several alternatives to gasoline. But I doubt it will ever reach the levels that gasoline has.
BigTruc
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 8:12:59 PM

I hope so.
Bearcat500
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 4:59:59 PM

I think so.
Night Owl
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 3:52:47 PM

Yes, let's use more of America's and Canada's plentiful supplies of natural gas.
NHLiveFree
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 3:49:59 PM


Nice alternative to diesel, but, of course, you can be assured the current lower prices will certainly rise with more use. The distribution is already widespread, so upgrading gasoline stations to real multi-fueling stations would be relatively simple. It makes a great step in the transition to our energy future.
Double_Golden
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 2:18:55 PM

if we have enough stations like gasoline, and cheaper...
335d1
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 1:02:16 PM

Diversify, makes sense.
jjjleblanc
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 12:51:31 PM

Let's start with the new diesel for transports.
gvan
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 12:48:44 PM

"There are too few NG car choices."

Probably because the price differential between a gasoline model and a CNG model is about $7,500.
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 12:39:14 PM

lets hope so
bigsranch
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 12:25:29 PM

CNG and LNG. Yes.
Jayburt
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 12:22:36 PM

AND it is available right here at home..in the good old USA so our money isn't going to countries that hate us and people who were walking in camel dung just 50 yrs. ago
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 12:20:23 PM

NG helps keep those aluminum engine blocks cool, and the tanks they use will stop most debris from damaging it. Drove cab back in the 90's and my car ran on NG. LOVED IT! Cheaper and the mileage was about the same
berniMI
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 12:11:08 PM

i DOUBT IT. BUT THEN WHO KNOWS?
Norm10
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 12:09:16 PM

Yes!
hamdriver
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:59:33 AM

I'd hope so.
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:59:28 AM

Choices are good and utilization of what works is the best way to go. I think it is neat the railroads are exploring CNG as an option.
ScottTee
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:58:58 AM

it will never "replace" gasoline, but it could be an excellent alternative & a transitional, transportation fuel as we hopefully advance to some type of "renewable" source.
Diesel_Ram
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:57:22 AM

It's making a lot of progress in that direction.
PetroCrap
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:57:14 AM

Yes it can and we'll be crying over the price of it soon enough because you know there will suddenly be more demand than supply and they will be able to ship more to China and India and they will have to do some sort of maintenance and there is always the weather and I'm sure there will be a conflict somewhere that will affect the supply, oh and don't forget all those taxes that will have to be added on. Wonder what will happen to NG for heating homes, better start stocking up on firewood.
ScottTee
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:56:47 AM

its time to get heavy transportation converted over to CNG, then we can work on passenger cars
LanguageMan1
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:55:38 AM

It COULD but likely won't.
WestMichigan
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:55:36 AM

The possibility is there, but it probably won't happen.
Valricoslash
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:55:35 AM

Why not? At least make it a cost effective alternative. the problem is developing a network of refueling stations.
williamcabot
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:55:02 AM

Another reason to raise gas prices.
VetteFan
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:54:55 AM

It's possible, but is it a good idea. Probably not.
It's still a fossil fuel which means it pollutes the atmosphere like gasoline. The world is going to demand we reduce pollution or pay for the damage. We need to be responsible and accept our role. The price of fuel is just going to go up no matter what we use or its abundance in America.
joekool1
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:54:29 AM

if it does our heating bills will double or triple i think
papou
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:54:05 AM

it would make Boone Pickens happy he is spending millions to make it happen .
SUSANCK
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:53:16 AM

Anything but oil.
Rick52
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:52:14 AM

Possibly Yes !!! If it is not all Exported.. For $$$
rbrowdersr
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:51:46 AM

I really doubt it.
atdinut
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:51:07 AM

CNG has a fuel for autos and other equipment for decades!!!
prcoqui
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:50:21 AM

Have to take care of the infrastructure.
infinititom
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:48:38 AM

It really sounds promising
craigsf38
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:47:26 AM

Yes
zimowski
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:47:20 AM

There are too few NG car choices.
tndirtydawg
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:47:13 AM

Yes, although probably not in my lifetime.
Kaiyne
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:46:38 AM

Sure.
YodaON
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:46:05 AM

they have been talking for years
gsipper
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:45:41 AM

Yes.
MJIOWA
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:45:16 AM

they will raise the price
Grinch09
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:44:41 AM

sumday!
CptnCanada
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:44:22 AM

if it does just watch the price of home heating SKYROCKET.
LuckyD43
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:44:21 AM

Natural Gas could very definitely become the gasoline of the future. Or at least, it SHOULD be However, before that can even happen, a large nation-wide infrastructure MUST be established to support it. I mean, after all, what good is having a CNG vehicle if there no place to fuel up.
LongPlay
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 11:43:51 AM

CNG is never going to replace gas and diesel, but it could provide some support in some areas to reduce demand for liquid fuels.
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