geminijax

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Jacksonville
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Message Posted: Dec 14, 2012 11:03:23 PM
Is Amtrak considered public transportation? I didn't think so.
Now, there are several profitable railroads that haul goods/freight. If they can be profitable and stand on their own two legs, why can't Amtrak?
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polarbear2

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Maine
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Message Posted: Dec 14, 2012 11:51:01 AM
Give me a break. I've had to worry about money. I also have enough character that I don't think that somebody else should be paying for my choices.
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Dec 14, 2012 5:56:24 AM
you've obviously never been one to have to worry about money. I wish you the best that you never will learn what it feels like to be on the side of not being able to drive or having to rely on others.
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polarbear2

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Maine
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 11:53:40 AM
If I ever need public transport I'd be willing to pay what it costs. I don't need to be a leech.
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:14:31 AM
hope you never need to rely on public transportation, Polar.
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polarbear2

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Maine
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:50:56 AM
Amtrak carries only passengers. Freight trains carry all the other goods you speak of. I'm not willing to pay for other people to get cheap transportation.
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 5:58:03 AM
polar: Amtrak benefits more than just the ppl riding the passenger cars. I'm willing to pay some and I'm far from their routes. That's b/c I know that Amtrak and other railroads carry lots of goods that I may use (not everything comes via truck).
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polarbear2

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Maine
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 11:59:27 AM
Interesting how those that use a thing don't want to pay it's true cost.
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:51:36 AM
interesting how those who don't use a particular thing are the ones who scream the loudest that it's not needed.
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:50:17 AM
Zonk: b/c taxpayers benefit from the low rail cost.
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gs7101

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 7:07:01 AM
Denied!
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Bill100

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 5:26:54 AM
It is to the point we need emergency funds for a very large amount of updating to ouir national infrastructure.
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tomok

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Portland
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 3:14:44 AM
Amtrak requests $336 million in emergency funds and more taxpayer money spent for the government running an inefficient business. Amtrack, Post Office, auto companies, EPA, giving vast amounts of money to other countries as aid and payoffs And the list goes on and on. A bottomless money pit and growing. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, vehicle manufactures Produce and the population ‘Drives’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! XII/XXII/MMXII!
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MAC48

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 12:34:31 AM
It would seem proper and totally justified that the users of AMTRAK, the Long Island Railroad and the New Jersey Transit should shoulder 100% of the cost of repairs, modernization, redesign and bear the burden of the lost revenues for which AMTRAK is seeking US taxpayer funding. Why should AMTRK, the Long Island Railroad and the New Jersey Transit expect the vast majority of the US population which does not nor ever will use these transportation services foot the bill for these Hurricane Sandy related costs?
User taxes and fees support almost all, if not all, of the burden to build, repair, maintain and modernize the US highway system. AMTRAK should be treated absolutely no different and AMTRAK users should bear this burden without taxpayer funding or reimbursement.
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Zonk

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 12:33:48 AM
Why should the taxpayers be required to bail Amtrak out?
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crreed1

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West Virginia
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 12:19:34 AM
old news
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TheSnowstorm

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 12:13:54 AM
" The additional $60 million would be to cover estimated operating losses incurred as a result of the storm."
What? You want compensation for estimated lost revenue? From a natural disaster? That is exactly like asking the government to compensate you when people no longer buy the widgets that you are manufacturing.
I do agree with funding to improve the infrastructure in the event of natural disasters, but to get compensation for lost revenue, that is a case for insurance, not government (tax dollars).
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skidsteer85xt

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 12:12:28 AM
if we fail to keep our place up the goverment will not help us out why should they be any different
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N5EXY

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Austin
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 12:12:13 AM
Another spendulus. Let Amtrak stand on its own.
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snky2k

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 12:10:49 AM
Read this yesterday.
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Matt G

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Boston
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 12:06:25 AM
Sad that they can't be financially independent
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jrschl

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Louisville
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 12:05:56 AM
I wish there was more rail services.
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BlewettCA

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California
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 12:05:01 AM
ok
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flagtown25

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 12:04:58 AM
There is no doubt that the New York transportation infrastructure needs a massive overhaul and improvement.
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judgemobile

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 12:04:48 AM
more government bailout.
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JCS319

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Tacoma
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 12:04:29 AM
Without additional funding for Amtrak, we're still a first world country with a third world transportation system.
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unicornpmb

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Buffalo
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 12:04:20 AM
Should have been done in the first place.
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cheaper0ON

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 12:04:00 AM
Ok.
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rjoeh

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 12:03:42 AM
BOARDMAN NEEDS TO REALIZE THAT BECOMING PROFITABLE SHOULD BE HIS PRIMARY GOAL. Constantly asking for handouts could deep 6 Amtrak for good.
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WIWalt

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Wisconsin
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 12:02:52 AM
Do it with your own money, not the taxpayers.
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rahcat

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 12:01:34 AM
Time to take Amtrak private.
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NAVYHM

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 11:59:49 PM
OK
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clermont40miles

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 11:59:17 PM
Can anything survive without subsidy?
The socialist teat being sucked dry.
Amtrak - do the trains run on time? And how does the travel time & cost compare to other available modes of transportation?
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BCM1

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 11:58:33 PM
Do it with your own money, not the taxpayers. Raise the fares to cover the costs and see how many riders you lose.
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PoohMcGoo

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Alabama
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 11:58:16 PM
Ok
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WIPACKERFAN

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 11:53:20 PM
I agree with you mstearno.
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BREW9

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 11:53:00 PM
all aboard
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mstearno

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 11:51:40 PM
go private or go bankrupt stop wasting my money
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gd83goldwinger

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South Bend
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 11:49:50 PM
It not different then anybody else.
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1COR1533

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 11:48:49 PM
sure why not everybody else is getting handouts
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BBHybrid

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Pittsburgh
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 11:48:47 PM
safety first please
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Dragnet

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Arizona
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 11:47:33 PM
They want that hand out and some of us don't even ride the darn train. Let the New Yorkers flip the money instead of our taxes
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goinwgas

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 11:47:29 PM
put me down for .01 per cent of that
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Prodaddy

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Houston
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 11:46:25 PM
I would like $ 100,000
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WhiskersTheCat

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Austin
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 11:45:53 PM
...uummmm. Why don't they just print it?
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mcmonsta

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Honolulu
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 11:45:11 PM
just lloking for another payout...get real...but they'll probably get it...won't they?
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mfgendron

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New York
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 11:41:06 PM
We must support our trains.
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The3rd

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Jacksonville
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 11:37:14 PM
another government bailout of a government run business.
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pgerassi

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 11:37:12 PM
Sandy keeps on biting.
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gasmack

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Ventura
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 11:36:27 PM
Headed down the same road(track) as the post office?
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