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Ford seeks apps to measure 'real world' fuel economy

GasBuddy Blog -- When the official-looking EPA ratings on the new car in the showroom say the vehicle you're drooling over gets 40 mpg and, after buying it you learn that you're only getting 32... who's to blame? The car manufacturer? The EPA? Yourself?

According to Jim Farley, Ford's global marketing chief, the carmakers that figure out the best ways to help consumers measure their real-world gas mileage could enjoy a competitive advantage. That's what he said last week at the New York Auto Show.

Credibility is king. And increasingly these days, consumers don't know who to believe. Ford recognizes that competing fuel economy claims by manufacturers have overwhelmed and confused consumers and that's why the company is now offering software...


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BDNNOD
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2013 1:56:23 AM

I THINK 'SCHEDLASER' IN MINNESOTA HAS MADE A GOOD POINT ABOUT DIFFERENT BLENDS IN DIFFERENT PLACES ... AND HOW IT EFFECTS YOUR MPG.
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BDNNOD
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2013 1:54:20 AM

JUST WISH YOU COULD GET GOOD QUALITY GAS ALL THE TIME. BUYER BEWARE...
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ohrocker
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 11:42:52 PM

ok
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schedlaser
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 10:01:40 AM

I agree with everyone advocating paper and pencil at every fill-up and over time.

I've had several vehicles that achieved or exceeded rated MPG on a long trip but never on an every day basis. We quite often travel between Minnesota and Missouri and our MPG increases immediately when we fill up in Iowa. I'm a believer in ethanol blends and don't know what is different between what is sold in Minnesota and Iowa or Missouri. When we have to fill up in Minnesota again, the mileage dips down again.
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bston
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 9:52:56 AM

One should go by the lowest MPG rating the vehicle is estimated rated & that is probably more accurate. Then if you're a conservative driver, then you probably will get better MPG's.
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Wizrd03
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 7:50:04 AM

Old Newa

You want to measure "real world" mpg? Get out of the lab & off the dyno and drive from Brighton, MI to downrtown Detroit every day for a month and tell us what you get - That's real world a good combination of highway & city
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kobes1
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:59:58 AM

Old news
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no_monkey2002
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:58:24 AM

YOUR BEST BET IS HONDA
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LeeFree
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:51:26 AM

I guess using a pen and paper is too old fashioned.
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hamdriver
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:49:04 AM

Old news
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harleydoctor
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:45:49 AM

If I could only afford one......
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twt
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:41:17 AM

Ford, has a better idea.
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mrjames1818
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:40:15 AM

MPG always varies according to driving conditions
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VB_Richard
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:38:29 AM

So many things to take into account when doing this.
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AnObserver
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:38:11 AM

This is good news but it is getting a little stale as this article stays up longer
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AvantiMick
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:29:47 AM

People need to remember, that mileage on the sticker, reflects driving at 55 on the highway. Not many do that!
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:28:22 AM

Gas usually gets worse, diesel's get better.
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:27:32 AM

Ok!
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:26:56 AM

old news.
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:25:03 AM

Never bought a vehicle that ever got the mileage on the window sticker, some not even close. So yes it's time the lying stops and to have it tested independently.
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Bill100
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:23:36 AM

"Credibility is king." And they think they are the only credible manufacturer out there.
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JCClark2012
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:22:46 AM

Funny how I was just saying there numbers are figured on a computer.
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Beau2140
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:22:20 AM

The only way to know what your real mpg is, is to keep a record updated at each fill up.
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:19:09 AM

Nice
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:18:32 AM

Politically correct "OK"
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:16:33 AM

Good idea
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:15:47 AM

ok, make it work.
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:13:52 AM

interesting
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:13:51 AM

Not so sure it would work
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:12:28 AM

an idea whose time has come....
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:08:50 AM

OK.
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TravelinMan52
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 5:06:39 AM

Sounds like it would lead to more distracted drivers on the road...

[Edited by: TravelinMan52 at 4/6/2013 5:08:10 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 4:58:32 AM

EPA ratings used to mean something. But now they can't be trusted. But this is no attempt to fool the consumer. It's more of an attempt to fool the CAFE standard. Trying to meet an impossible mpg rating is leading manufacturers to stretch the truth and the bounds of physics.
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 4:55:49 AM

Test car using ethanol get poorer milage
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 4:55:05 AM

...miles divided by gallons...sooooo hard...
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 4:54:56 AM

getting there
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 4:53:47 AM

Change test standards to reflect real world conditions so people will know what to really expect!!!
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 4:53:03 AM

Real testing would be great instead of lab tests.
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 4:49:37 AM

Ford #1.
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 4:45:29 AM

Just giving buyers false hope to move a new car.
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defense
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 4:42:50 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 4:41:09 AM

good for them
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 4:40:21 AM

Can we move on please
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 4:33:18 AM

Go Ford!
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 4:31:07 AM

Ford leads
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 4:23:22 AM

OK
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 4:22:37 AM

The current government tests are artificial
and optimistic (albeit better than a few years
ago). Do they incorporate occasional stomping
on the accelerator? rain? air conditioner
usage? windows open? buncha junka in da trunka?
under-inflated tires? ANYthing real world?

A better estimate would be a mean of expectations,
such that heavy-footers get less and dainty-footers
get more, and the car has "average" maintenance
(to be defined!) and uses the heater / air conditioner
sometimes.
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 4:22:00 AM

Why do they not take 20 cars and put them in different areas in the states. Then they run them on different highways and cities. After a two week course the average the mileage.
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 4:20:51 AM

Good for them.
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wingryder92
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 4:14:43 AM

We already have an app called Road Trip, works just fine in both Canada liters per 100 KM or US Miles per Gallon.

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